Deobandi Grave worship (2) – Fatawa from their website

  1. Shehzad
    September 1, 2012 at 15:19

    Can anyone transate the Arabic please? JazakAllah

  2. Ibn Sulaiman
    September 26, 2012 at 22:03

    Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullhi wa barakatuh

    Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim

    May Allah guide us all. The title here is ‘grave worship’, however I found that the fatwa which is linked here has nothing to do with grave worship, it is to do with tawassul. These are two different things. Grave worship is haram and forbidden in Islam and an act of shirk. Tawassul is different, it is not asking help from the grave or the person in the grave, it is asking the help of Allah.

    Therefore, I would like to say that to put such a title and mislead the readers is not an appropiate thing to do. Lying and misleading are great sins in Islam. Allah has cursed the liars in many places in the Qur’an. The Prophet (Peace and Blessings be upon him) has condemned lying and listed it amongst the signs of a Munafiq (hypocrite). Misleading people is also a grevious sin in Islam.

    If according to you tawassul is grave worship (which it is not) then what do you say of Shaikul Islam Ibn Taymiyah when he strongly refutes those who deny that du`a near the graves of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings be upon him) and the pious may be more likely to be accepted due to their blessings. He adds in Iqtidaus Siratil Mustaqim, “It is not part of this topic what has been narrated in regards some people hearing a return of their greeting from the grave of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings be upon him) or the graves of others amongt the pious. Indeed Sa`id bin al-Musayyib heard the azan from the grave during the nights of al-Harrah”. [p373]

    In the same book, he wrote, “In the same way it is narrated that a man came to the Prophet (Peace and Blessings be upon him)’s grave and complained about drought. He than had a vision of him and he ordered him to go to `Umar and tell him to go to the people and perform istisqa’.”. [p373]

    On the same page he said, “Similar occurences happen to those less than the Prophet (Peace and Blessings be upon him) and I know many such incidents.” [p373]

    What can be said thus about Shaikul Islam?

    With regards to tawassul it is the aqidah of the Ahlus sunnah wal jama`ah that is is permissible. The hadith of Uthman bin Hunaif (R.A.) is clear in this regard. For the full hadith refer to Tirmidhi, 3595, vol.2, p197, abwab ad-da`wat. It has also been narrated by Nasai, 663, p203, `amal al-yaum wa al-laylah, Ibn Majah, 1385, p99, Sahih Ibn Khuzaimah, 1219, and Al-Hakim, 1180, vol.1, p458, and he said it is a Sahih hadith on the conditions of Shaikhain (Bukhari and Muslim) and also Tabrani, 8311, vol.9, p30. Also refer to at-Targib wat-Tarhib, vol.1, p438, kitab an-nawafil. Baihaqi has also called it Sahih. These narrrations are of the tawassul of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings be upon him) by a companion. Tabrani has narrated the narration with the addtion of the Prophets and Messengers of the past nations also with a ‘Jayyid’ chain of narration, Hashiyatul `Allamah ibn Hajar al Haithami `ala sharh al-idah fi manasikil haj, p452. Hakim says that this hadith is Sahih, al-Mustadrak, vol.1, p700, kitab al-du`a wa al-takbir…. Ibn Hajar Makki, `Allamah Zurqani, `Allamah Khalil, `Allamah Qastalani, Qadhi `Iyadh have all in the books given permission of tawassul. al-mawahib al-ladunniyyah, vol.8, p317. Kitab al-shifa’, vol.2, p35, fasl fi ta`zim an-nabi. `Allamah ibn Humam has also stated this in fathul qadir, vol.3, p181, ktab al-haj, al-maqsad al-thalith fi ziyarati qabr an-nabi.

    Also refer to at-tawassaul wal-wasilah, p83. al-ithaf, vol.5, p66, kitab al-athkar wa al-da`wat. This companion then encouraged someone else to do the same after the demise of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings be upon him) as narrated by al-mu`jam al-kabir lit-Tabrani, 8311, vol.9, p31, al-khasas al-kubra, vol.2, p201, at-Targib wat-Tarhib, vol.1, p438, kitab al-nawafil. `Allamah Zurqani has also written with regards to tawassul in sharh mawahib, vol.8, p318.

    Also refer to Ruh al-Ma`ani, vol.6, p128, surah al-maidah, verse:35. Tawassul with good actions can be found in hadith al-Gar, al-Bukhari, vol.2, p883, kitab al-adab.

    For the meaning of tawassul please refer to ruh al-ma`ani, vol.6, p125-127, surah al-maidah, verse:35.

    For rasail on tawassul, please read al-fajr al-sadiq fi rad `ala munkir al-tawassul….(about 121 pages), al-tawassul bin-nabi wa jahlatil wahhabiyyin mulhiqah al-tawassul bin-nabi (about 326 pages). Also, tabqat al-shafi`iyyah al-kubra, vol.9, p35-91, tabqat subki, vol.10, p139. `Allamah Yafi`i’s maratul jinan wa `ibratul yaqthan fi ma`rifati ma yu`tabar min hawadith al-zaman, vol.4, p278. `Allamah ibn Makki’s fatawa hadithiyyah, p114. Also, tathkirah al-huffaz, p316, li Sabt ibn al-`Ajami.

    Please do not confuse tawassul with grave worship , as there is a distinct difference between the two.

    May Allah guide us all and unite the Muslims.

    Allah knows best.

    Ibn Sulaiman

  3. abul-hassaan
    October 9, 2012 at 16:37

    Supplication is from the categories of worship by consensus. i think you need to re-read your own cut and paste references and consider comparing them with the fatwa and also with modern day habits in this regard.


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